FIB MUSIC: So Dee was doing that from the very beginning.
Eddie: Yeah...Yeah, he always did that, it was just something, I guess it became part of a
thing. Dee just couldn't stand when people just sat there with their arms folded and not getting into it. And then I guess it became
part of a thing that people expected him to do. I think he just enjoyed doing it. I don't think he did it conciously, I think he
would just would see that and get pissed off and just go off on somebody.
FIB MUSIC: Well, I mean how great is it when you have a guy in make-up, threatening to kick your
I know we got make-up on and meanwhile we're hard as nails.
FIB MUSIC: How did you guys find Dee?
Eddie: Actually, we had this agent named Kevin Brenner. He worked with an agency called
CTA. I think it stood for Creative Talent Association and they were a big, big agency...everyone wanted to be with them.
But they were hard to get in with. In fact, Cindi Lauper had a band called Blue Angel, before she made it and she was always
trying to get gigs for her band and Kevin wouldn't give her the time of day. And when she made it, she used to tell me.."I never
liked Kevin"....But to us, he was always great, I guess because we always did well for him, and I never had a problem with the guy,
so, you know, some people can get along with one person and hate another...different strokes. For whatever reason, certain bands didn't
work out with him and some bands did.
So he was booking a band called Peacock, which is a weird name, and Dee was the lead singer and he wasn't happy with the band. And
Twisted already had a name for itself and he had always loved the band and wanted to be a part of it. So Dee asked Kevin and Kevin
asked us if we interested in trying out Dee Snider. And it was great from day one. When he first joined the band we were doing
all Zeppelin stuff and he looked like Robert Plant from the back of the club...you know from a distance. When you got up close, he
didn't look like Robert Plant, but one day I said, "you know, he looks like Robert Plant if you're in the middle of the bar".
FIB MUSIC: Are there any recordings floating around with the original singer?
Eddie: No. I doubt if there's anything at all, because at the time they were just a
club band. The only time Twisted recorded, back then, was when Dee joined the band and that was after awhile when we started
writing originals, because there was no real reason record songs that were already recorded. But when we started writing originals
that's when we started recording, which was in the late 70's. Most of that stuff we released, because we had a lot of stuff in the can.
Club Daze I & II. Some of those things we did in one to two days. Because we were playing clubs so much that we could go into the
studio and play live and record and be very tight.
FIB MUSIC: How often did you guys play out back then?
Eddie: About 4 or 5 days a week.
FIB MUSIC: So you were you able to pay your bills by just playing music?
Eddie: Oh yeah, we were doing really well. At on point we were one of the highest paid
club bands in the Tri-State area. We were making some very good money. For the times.......but even nowadays, some bands now would
love to be making what we were making back then. Some of these bands are lucky to get $500.00 or $1000.00 a night.
FIB MUSIC: What were you guys taking in on an average night back then?
Eddie: I don't really want to get into specifics, but it was great. But a lot of these
tribute bands now do really well. There's a Queen tribute band and a Motley Crue tribute band. Some of them are really good, there's
one who does Alice in Chains...But some of them do really well.
FIB MUSIC: I know, I have a buddy in Dallas that works at some shithole club and they just had a
KISS tribute band play there and the band took in something like $2500.00.
Eddie: Right. They make 2 to 3 thousand dollars a night. The tribute bands do well. It's
some of these bands that try to make it...unless they get a recording deal and do it that way, get a video out. Get a name for
themselves and then they go out and tour. Which you know, there are a lot of different ways to make it. I mean we made it kind of
the hard way, we did the club scene first and then when we were big on the club circuit, we evolved to the next level.
And got a record deal.
FIB MUSIC: Which was your first album, "Under the Blade". Was that record deal only in the UK?
Eddie: It was a record label called Secret Records, which was a good name for it, because
it was pretty much a secret. They were based out of the UK; their first independent label...a guy came and heard about us. We
had a big, big buz in the UK. People were selling bootleg tapes of us and that is how he heard about us and he came to the States
to see us.
FIB MUSIC: That's incredible, he heard of you guys through bootleg tapes?
Eddie: Yeah. Huge buz on the band. I mean, the first time we went to the UK, we were playing
like the Marquee and all these clubs and I mean they would be PACKED. It was like the same feel that we had over here. So we
signed with Secret Records...there was a band called the Exploited and they were signed to them as well. First we did an EP with
them, called Ruff Cuts, which was some tapes we already used. And then we made the Under the Blade album with them and recorded that
out in the UK, we recorded it in a barn, basically with a mobile unit. Did a lot of overdubs inside the studio...I forgot the name
of the studio. Paul McCartney had worked at the studio. Somewhere near Battle, a part of England called Battle.
FIB MUSIC: How long did it take you guys to record Under the Blade?
Eddie: About two months. I don't know, it was probably more like a month. We used to pop
things out pretty quickly, because we didn't have to learn anything, we had been playing these songs for awhile in the clubs there
was nothing to learn or write. When we went into the studio we were ready. It was probably more like a month for the first album and I think our second
album we also did in England, You Can't Stop Rock n Roll, took about two months.
FIB MUSIC: But you guys were signed to Atlantic Records by that point right?
Eddie: Yeah at that point we were signed to Atlantic....we lost our deal with Secret Records....
or they went belly up....I think that's what happened, so we had to get a new deal. And then we ended up doing this show called
The Tube, which 8 million people watched. It was one of the biggest shows in England, at the time. So we did the show and Lemmy from
Motorhead came up and jammed with us on It's Only Rock n Roll but I Like It....there's videos out there, some bootleg dvd's of it.
And Phil Carson and Mick Jones happened to be at the studio that day, they were doing an interview about Foreigner. Phil Carson was
the VP of Atlantic in the UK and he basically was responsible for signing Zeppelin, YES, ACDC, ABBA, Foreigner...a few successful bands.
FIB MUSIC: Yeah really. (laughs)
Eddie: So he was with Mick Jones and Mick, who had an apartment in New York,
says you know, I keep hearing about this band, I want to stay and watch this band....they are always on the
radio, they're playing this place, they're playing that place. Because they used to advertise the hell out of us on the radio,
because we were always playing these big clubs. So they stayed and watched it and the next day Phil Carson offered us a record deal.
We were actually offered three record deals and we decided to go with Atlantic. Phil didn't even want to meet us, he just wanted
to sign us. But he gave in....he likes us now. I think it was more of a running joke. But he said, I don't want to meet them, I
just want to sign them. So we signed with Atlantic.....and of course, he came down to meet us...he was just joking. And that's how it
happened. So the second album we did at Jimmy Page's studio.....to be continued.