FIB MUSIC: Did you tour with any other bands for that album? Who were they? Anything stand out?
Jaime: We did some shows with Dio and Whitesnake. Also Night Ranger.
FIB MUSIC: How did the decision come about to use Bruce Fairbairn as a producer on Without Love?
Jaime: We decided on our own to use him. We thought a heavier version of what he was doing with Loverboy at the time would make for a
good sound. Geffen agreed and so we sent him some demos and he went for it.
FIB MUSIC: What was it like working with him? What sets him apart from other producers?
Jaime:
He was a great coordinator. He would bring in guys like Jim Vallance
or the dude from Toto to help out. He had a good ear for a strong song or what a song needed to make it work.
FIB MUSIC: Wasn't Bob Rock his assistant, at the time? Didn't he engineer the record?
Jaime: Bob Rock was our engineer. Mike Fraser was the assistant.
Black n Blue
(L - R) Tommy Thayer, Pete Holmes,
Jaime St. James, Patrick Young & Jeff Warner
FIB MUSIC: What was it like working with Bob Rock?
Jaime: Bob was huge in making the record sound
as well as it does. It was kind of a dream team when you look back on it.
FIB MUSIC: Any cool, sucked, brilliant moments stand out from those recording sessions?
Jaime: The whole damn thing was brilliant in my opinion. Totally underrated record.
FIB MUSIC: Where was it recorded? What was the budget?
Jaime: It was recorded at Little Mountain studio in Vancouver BC, Canada. Again we spent around $300,000.
FIB MUSIC: Who did you guys tour with to support that record?
Jaime: KISS, the Asylum tour.
FIB MUSIC: Why do you think that album didn't sell huge numbers? There were some major songs on that record.
Did Geffen stop promoting it? Did you not tour long enough? Any opinion?
Jaime: I really don't know. I believe the songs were there. Geffen once again
were great in the beginning but they chose to bail on it rather than push it.
FIB MUSIC: Didn't Bon Jovi hear Without Love and from that moment, decided to use Bruce Fairbairn to produce Slippery When Wet?
Jaime: Yes, that's what Jon and Richie told me one night at the Rainbow.
Black n Blue w/ Gene Simmons
FIB MUSIC: How does the band decide on using Gene Simmons as a producer for your next release, Nasty
Nasty. Other than the fact you grew up loving KISS, was there any other reason?
Jaime: We wanted a producer that would be on our side and not the labels. This would allow us to rock the way WE wanted to. In the end we did "I'll Be There For You" for a movie sound track and Geffen put it on the record. It was a good song but it was out of place. Geffen
told us if we did not put it on the record, they would do nothing to promote it. They got their way in the end.
FIB MUSIC: Any cool memories stand out from working with Gene?
Jaime: I asked Peter Criss to come down and sing on a song and he hadn't seen Gene in years. They talked for hours
about the old days and it was fun to see them together again (thank you very much)
FIB MUSIC: I asked Marc Ferrari this, in his interview, and he wasn't sure, but was there a reason everything Gene Simmons produced, sounded like KISS drums. The drums had the same KISS drum sound that KISS had in the 80's & 90's? Did Pete Holmes
want that sound, or like it, did you guys like that sound or were you even aware of it?
Jaime: Everyone in those days was going for a Back In Black meets Def Leppard drum sound. It's all Mutt Lange's fault.
FIB MUSIC: Could you have ever imagined that Tommy Thayer would one day be dressing up as Ace Frehley and playing in KISS? Did he call and tell you? How did you first hear about it?
Were you surprised?
Jaime: When we were younger I would have never guessed it but he was working for them for years and I saw it coming. I can't
remember when he told me. We lived together for a while so maybe he told me then.
FIB MUSIC: With your final album with Geffen, In Heat, what was that status of the band at that time. Did
you know it would be your last album on Geffen, if it didn't hit?
Jaime: Yes we knew that. Gene offered Geffen a boatload of money to buy us off the label and put us on Simmons Records because he knew they were not going to get
behind it. They wouldn't do it. They did no promotion and just let us die out there.
FIB MUSIC: Did you guys tour to support that record? If so, who were some of the bands you toured with?
Jaime: We did some shows with Queensryche and Yngwie Malmsteen. Can anybody f*cking spell that for me???
FIB MUSIC: Any cool memories stand out from those recording sessions?
Jaime: There were some great songs that came about for that record. "The Snake", "Live It Up"
FIB MUSIC: Any idea what the budget for that record was? Where did you record it?
Jaime: We did it in LA at Rumbo studio. I don't remember how much we spent.
FIB MUSIC: Why did Tommy decide to leave the band?
Jaime: Frustration I presume.
FIB MUSIC: After Black n Blue you formed a band called Freight
Train Jane. Will that ever be re-released? It seems to fetch quite a lot on Ebay.
Jaime: I might do that. It never got released in America
FIB MUSIC: Speaking of Ebay, the Black n Blue catalog was probably
one of the highest priced catalogs for the genre, with each cd costing a considerable amount of cash,
some of them costing $100.00 or more per cd. Did you used to crap your pants at some of the prices people would pay, before the
re-releases came out? Were you flattered, or did you ever notice?
Jaime: Yes people would tell me about it. I thought it kinda sucked that fans had to pay so much money for a damn CD.
FIB MUSIC: During the 90's you had a KISS tribute
band called Cold Gin. How did that come about and who else was in the band.
Jaime: Well I was Peter. Tommy was Gene (just kidding) I mean Ace. We had 2 Genes, first was Chris McLearnon and
Spiro Papadatos replaced him when Chris joined Saigon Kick. Anthoney White was Paul.
FIB MUSIC: Did you guys play a lot of gigs?
Jaime: We toured America and Japan. It was fun but we knew it would not be a permanent thing.
FIB MUSIC: Jaime St. James is transported back to the year 1983 and were instructed that you had to do two things differently this time around. What would they be?
Jaime: I would have taken the Ozzy tour that we turned down so we
could use Dieter Dierks, and I would sign to one of the other labels that wanted us.
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